PosiToos, a Dutch Community Currency is again in the news for all the wrong reasons – it is owned by bankrupted entity Qoin with attempts to conceal this from the Curator (Liquidator) by Qoin’s shonky Directors. In this post I detail some of the myriad entities relating to PosiToos, conduct designed to deceive; pretending to be big shots and a success story when in fact the barrel is empty!
In previous posts I have revealed the modus operandii of shysters Rob van Hilten and Edgar Kampers – they’re simply conmen, operating under the cover of their friends at IRTA who for years have given them huge credibility in the Alternative Currency sector.
Their self-appointed role as Complementary Currency experts [their words] belies the fact that they talk-up minor projects; self-promote like crazy and then suck investors and funders into their web of deceit. This all done for one thing only – personal enrichment. Many a well-meaning supporter has found out to their cost, these conmen’s callous disregard for others. They are and always have been ‘users’ of people despite their smiles and suits! Just review their attitude towards their creditors in their actual words used. It’s sickening!
Posi Toos was established in Tilburg in Q4 2010:
NL: Positoos was sinds november 2010 actief in Tilburg
EN: PosiToos was active in Tilburg since November 2010.
It ceased trading in Q2 2015.
EN: Tilburg savings system Posi Toos, where consumers can save for associations, is retiring. On the website reads as follows: “That means that you will soon no Posi Toos more you can save at affiliated retailers can still be as usual redeem your savings over the next three months, until September 25, 2015 when connected. shopkeepers. Next, the system stops and the exchange is no longer possible Posi Toos. A current list of participating retailers is available here. “
Qoin purchased it some months later and according to Edgar Kampers it will be up and running again quick-smart.
EN: To realize this is just the old Posi Toos BV acquired by enjoy together Posi Toos BV The new company is owned by Qoin, an organization specializing for over 15 years in developing community coins. Director Edgar Kampers: “We Posi Toos taken to secure the entire program to enjoy together. Savers can continue to save, shops publishing Posi Toos and supporting local savings targets that the inhabitants of Bergen op Zoom and Tholen important. is already a considerable amount of Posi Toos spared the local savings goals we will pay soon. “
But it isn’t and won’t for the real owner of PosiToos is now bankrupt and despite efforts from the conmen to resurrect their fallen empire, the Curator of the bankrupt entity can claw PosiToos back from Rob van Hilten’s claim to ownership under the Samen Doen brand.
The reason that PosiToos and Samen Doen are simply dreams and hot-air is that until December 2015, ALL Qoin entities were owned by the central entity (Stichting Points) and in Q1 2016 this entity was bankrupted.
Except for their illegal attempt to strip assets out of the bankruptcy at the 11th hour, Samen Doen, Qoin BV, Tradeqoin AND EVERYTHING ‘Qoin’ has been bankrupted.
Sadly for those who wanted Nirvana in this region, this includes PosiToos!
One of the tricks that these conmen use to conceal the reality is a string of rotating entities that give the appearance of grandeur. Take for example PosiToos . . . remember that this was a small Community Currency that closed down after only a few years in existence. Think about it . . . there’s good reason for why it closed down of course . . . !
Here are just SOME of the conmen’s various entities relating to PosiToos as listed on KVK:
Hoofdvestiging17229441 0000 000020341601 Positoos BV. Positoos BV. Spaarbanken. Financiële holdings. Positoos BV. Positoos BV. www.positoos.nl. …
Samen doen/positoos B.V.
Hoofdvestiging64002691 0000 000032866186 Samen doen/positoos BV. Samen doen/positoos BV. … Samen doen/positoos BV. Samen doen/positoos BV. …
Stichting PositoosFinanciële holdings. Stichting Positoos. Stichting Positoos. www.positoos.nl. Groenstraat 139 /155, 5021LL, Tilburg Nederland, 5021 LL. …
Stichting Administratiekantoor Positoos… Stichting Administratiekantoor Positoos. Stichting Administratiekantoor Positoos. Groenstraat 139 /155, 5021LL, Tilburg Nederland, 5021 LL. …
Positoos B.V.17229441 819666105. Positoos BV. Positoos BV. Besloten vennootschap met gewone structuur.
Samen doen/positoos B.V.64002691 855483714. Samen doen/positoos BV. Samen doen/positoos BV. Besloten vennootschap met gewone structuur.
Now I am not saying that every one of these entities is a con . . . yet. What I do say is that establishing multiple entities for the purpose of deception IS the modus operandii of the conmen. You can see this proven in the Dutch Chamber of Commerce records with an incredible string of entities related to Edgar Kampers and Rob van Hilten going back many years. The remarkable thing is that NONE of them have EVER lodged the compulsory financial figures. They simply roll out a new entity and close the old one to prevent anyone knowing the truth – that it’s all a big con!
While multiple entities CAN indicate huge success and large commerce, in the hands of small-time crooks like these conmen it is ALWAYS designed to obfuscate. The reality however is shown clearly and publicly in Qoin’s bankruptcy report – the barrel is empty! My blogging from Tradeqoin days also shows that it always has been too!
So PosiToos was established, did a little something for a few years, folded in 2015, and along came Qoin, who supposedly purchased it and claimed that they will resurrect it. Not so without the Stichting Points Curator’s blessing – I hope!